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	<title>Comments on: The Vertical Map Is Dead! How To Really Plan For The Future</title>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 07:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, thanks for the comment Mike. I definitely agree with you about the 20,000ft level. While it&#039;s useful it seems to stick out like a sore thumb in the otherwise harmonious flow of the vertical map.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, thanks for the comment Mike. I definitely agree with you about the 20,000ft level. While it&#8217;s useful it seems to stick out like a sore thumb in the otherwise harmonious flow of the vertical map.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike F</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 07:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve got to say, I pretty much agree with your summary on this. Having recently tried to look at vertical mapping myself, I&#039;ve ended up redesigning the thing - not quite to the same model as yours, but certainly into something more routinely workable.

The timescales aren&#039;t an issue to me as I&#039;ve never really interpreted GTD literally anyway (should I get a stopwatch for the two minute rule or what?), but the inherent problem is that the 20,000ft stage falls over in two areas.

Firstly, it&#039;s a change in currency, which means mapping through the levels suddenly falls over at this point. My take on vertical mapping has always been as a means to assess whether your day-to-day is actually helping you achieve long term goals, so if you have orphaned elements at either end you are faced with asking yourself either, &quot;Why am I doing this?&quot; or, &quot;Why aren&#039;t I doing anything about this?&quot;. The roles and responsibility at 20,000ft just interferes here - a continuous mapping from 10,000ft to 30,000ft is possible without having this step in the way. Not that I&#039;m saying it&#039;s not useful, but it feels like a parallel analysis, not part of the vertical map.

Secondly, if you do wish to retain the level, I still think you should be aiming to link each item in a level with at least one item in a level above or below it. But the problem with 20,000ft is that these relationships suddenly become way too complex. My work provides the money and expertise to service some of my longer term goals, but then the expertise also comes as a result of my personal activities. So immediately we&#039;ve got many too many relationships appearing - not insurmountable, and as a techie with database expertise I can handle it - but wasn&#039;t GTD supposed to help clarify things? Paralysis by analysis indeed.

So where did this lead me then? Well completing the 50,000ft to 30,000ft levels was a useful exercise and unlike some examples I&#039;ve seen, I think this has to be a top down process, otherwise you&#039;re just handing control of your life over to your current taskmasters - I&#039;ve abandoned 20,000ft and chosen to liken those top three levels to a desired destination, the means I&#039;ll use to reach that destination and the details of the first leg of the journey.

And as for how this meshes with the daily GTD actions, this will now form part of, say, a monthly review. Look at all my current projects and see which progress the first leg elements they tie in to. Any projects which don&#039;t match are for consideration as to whether I should (or can) abandon them, or whether they highlight gaps further up the map. Conversely, any first leg elements which don&#039;t seem to have a current project helping them along, well... that&#039;s the easy part, isn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve got to say, I pretty much agree with your summary on this. Having recently tried to look at vertical mapping myself, I&#8217;ve ended up redesigning the thing &#8211; not quite to the same model as yours, but certainly into something more routinely workable.</p>
<p>The timescales aren&#8217;t an issue to me as I&#8217;ve never really interpreted GTD literally anyway (should I get a stopwatch for the two minute rule or what?), but the inherent problem is that the 20,000ft stage falls over in two areas.</p>
<p>Firstly, it&#8217;s a change in currency, which means mapping through the levels suddenly falls over at this point. My take on vertical mapping has always been as a means to assess whether your day-to-day is actually helping you achieve long term goals, so if you have orphaned elements at either end you are faced with asking yourself either, &#8220;Why am I doing this?&#8221; or, &#8220;Why aren&#8217;t I doing anything about this?&#8221;. The roles and responsibility at 20,000ft just interferes here &#8211; a continuous mapping from 10,000ft to 30,000ft is possible without having this step in the way. Not that I&#8217;m saying it&#8217;s not useful, but it feels like a parallel analysis, not part of the vertical map.</p>
<p>Secondly, if you do wish to retain the level, I still think you should be aiming to link each item in a level with at least one item in a level above or below it. But the problem with 20,000ft is that these relationships suddenly become way too complex. My work provides the money and expertise to service some of my longer term goals, but then the expertise also comes as a result of my personal activities. So immediately we&#8217;ve got many too many relationships appearing &#8211; not insurmountable, and as a techie with database expertise I can handle it &#8211; but wasn&#8217;t GTD supposed to help clarify things? Paralysis by analysis indeed.</p>
<p>So where did this lead me then? Well completing the 50,000ft to 30,000ft levels was a useful exercise and unlike some examples I&#8217;ve seen, I think this has to be a top down process, otherwise you&#8217;re just handing control of your life over to your current taskmasters &#8211; I&#8217;ve abandoned 20,000ft and chosen to liken those top three levels to a desired destination, the means I&#8217;ll use to reach that destination and the details of the first leg of the journey.</p>
<p>And as for how this meshes with the daily GTD actions, this will now form part of, say, a monthly review. Look at all my current projects and see which progress the first leg elements they tie in to. Any projects which don&#8217;t match are for consideration as to whether I should (or can) abandon them, or whether they highlight gaps further up the map. Conversely, any first leg elements which don&#8217;t seem to have a current project helping them along, well&#8230; that&#8217;s the easy part, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeroen Sangers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeroen Sangers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 07:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my opinion you oversimplified by leaving out responsibilities (20,000ft). Responsibilities are structurally different from goals, as they represent your current situation and not a future state to work towards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my opinion you oversimplified by leaving out responsibilities (20,000ft). Responsibilities are structurally different from goals, as they represent your current situation and not a future state to work towards.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 20:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comment Laura. You&#039;re right about how it&#039;s not set in stone, but my problem is that if you fill in a full vertical map with all six stages, that&#039;s a lot of stuff that will get changed on a regular basis (I&#039;ve always found that they constantly change). Hardly encouraging and certainly a time waste.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comment Laura. You&#8217;re right about how it&#8217;s not set in stone, but my problem is that if you fill in a full vertical map with all six stages, that&#8217;s a lot of stuff that will get changed on a regular basis (I&#8217;ve always found that they constantly change). Hardly encouraging and certainly a time waste.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 19:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve never been much of a big picture person in some ways; the 50,000ft stuff doesn&#039;t come naturally. So, in that sense, I like your simpler vision, goals and projects approach.

I don&#039;t think doing away with timescales completely is the answer, though. The time frame could be a soft goal (rather than a deadline) or just a tickler to review that particular project, vision or goal at the end of the month, quarter or year.

The act of thinking about your goals and writing them down is very powerful. But it doesn&#039;t set them in stone. You&#039;re allowed to say, &quot;Hey, this goal isn&#039;t important to me anymore&quot;. You could schedule time every so often to re-evaluate your upper level goals and visions (since during weekly review you&#039;re more likely to just look at projects, next actions and someday/maybe items).  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never been much of a big picture person in some ways; the 50,000ft stuff doesn&#8217;t come naturally. So, in that sense, I like your simpler vision, goals and projects approach.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think doing away with timescales completely is the answer, though. The time frame could be a soft goal (rather than a deadline) or just a tickler to review that particular project, vision or goal at the end of the month, quarter or year.</p>
<p>The act of thinking about your goals and writing them down is very powerful. But it doesn&#8217;t set them in stone. You&#8217;re allowed to say, &#8220;Hey, this goal isn&#8217;t important to me anymore&#8221;. You could schedule time every so often to re-evaluate your upper level goals and visions (since during weekly review you&#8217;re more likely to just look at projects, next actions and someday/maybe items).</p>
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		<title>By: Geeks Guide To GTD</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geeks Guide To GTD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 11:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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